tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post8956924062689958731..comments2024-03-14T16:03:32.434-04:00Comments on Gertie's New Blog for Better Sewing: Fat and FashionGertiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04314542159287533507noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-53296750220925775022013-04-03T06:31:52.745-04:002013-04-03T06:31:52.745-04:00We are really grateful for your blog post. You wil...We are really grateful for your blog post. You will find a lot of approaches after visiting your post.<br /><a href="http://www.birdco.info/2013/03/health-fitness.html" rel="nofollow">Health Fitness</a> | <a href="http://pakistanrealpolitics.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Pakistan Politics</a><br />Sadiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13452823552545627692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-45249225365491819862013-01-11T05:31:39.964-05:002013-01-11T05:31:39.964-05:00Excellent and decent post. 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It's the fact that the actual visual image that we are presented with clashes so much with the reality of that weight.<a href="https://www.rx247.net/Nicoumalone.html" rel="nofollow">Nicoumalone</a> For instance, though we may think that a 5'5" woman at 120 lbs is healthy (absolutely not overweight until about 140), the image of that woman comes as a surprisingly "fat" one. Aroojhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16602651800447420870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-12820558825601901912012-09-17T13:54:16.575-04:002012-09-17T13:54:16.575-04:00Both of you have beautiful and healthy curves! I w...Both of you have beautiful and healthy curves! I would automatically say that too big is not good, but I wonder if my idea of "big" isn't a great bit bigger than yours. <a href="https://www.carlmontpharmacy.com/" rel="nofollow">Home page</a><br />Ridahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02405619882350094230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-82042407557900293292010-11-26T16:26:55.451-05:002010-11-26T16:26:55.451-05:00AAhh, the yo-yo weight problem... I seem to be at ...AAhh, the yo-yo weight problem... I seem to be at my highest peak of the arc these days too... although I just found out I have hypothyroidism - so I've started taking the meds for that and feeling more energetic and hoping that my weight will start yo-ing in the other/better direction! LOL That book looks like a good read and I can totally relate to sewing connecting with the fashion world... seems like everything is geared to the "perfect size 6" with no butt, no hips, no thighs, etc... all of which I have plenty! LOL <br />Anyways, thanks for the honesty posts... I look forward to more! :)Syrenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06673398267882746510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-63542976199549810342009-10-30T22:38:22.236-04:002009-10-30T22:38:22.236-04:00"Actually, her curvy body reminds me of Cathe..."Actually, her curvy body reminds me of Catherine Zeta-Jones and Marilyn Monroe - who are/were both very handsome, sexy, yet not skinny ladies."<br /><br />At one point I thought that Zeta-Jones was overweight, but I came to realize that I had been brainwashed into thinking that anything over a size 2 was big. Monroe and Zeta-Jones are classical ladies. Z-J, in particular, is extremely talented. I could never say now that she's overweight.<br /><br />And you, Gertie, are absolutely beautiful. I especially like your dark hair with your new red dress.<br /><br />As for Crystal, what an absolutely GORGEOUS woman. Fab-u-lous. I hope that my acceptance of different body types and beauty (yeah to Dove commercials) will eventually translate to myself.Heather C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-14960249280662637922009-10-25T06:54:00.906-04:002009-10-25T06:54:00.906-04:00Looked at "Health at Every Size", becaus...Looked at "Health at Every Size", because I suspect that health wise I could change some things in my nutrition. But why do I have to read through an introduction (the only thing I see on Amazon) about diet first ? I am not on a diet, I will never be on a diet and my main goal is not to loose weight, but to make sure to live till 90 in a healthy way. When I started at the fitness club, they had real mental problems with me not mentioning my weight or loss of it. If I can be healthy at my current weight, I let my body have it. Give me a book where the author does not assume every woman wants to loose weight please. I am not obsessed with eating, I do not go hungry, if I can avoid it. I just want some ideas beside carrot sticks of tasty, nutritional food. I love carrot sticks by the way. Maybe some ideas beside the Hollywood star regime of 1 hour training every day, what else a normal person could do. In short I want realistic ideas how to avoid dying young and being sick, which worries me much more than, if fashion can live with my body type. I emancipated myself from the fashion industry by learning to sew. Fashion as an art to look at is cool, fashion as an industry is doomed anyway, if they do not make things that customers want to buy, I say good riddance.gigampfinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-13995263516862636912009-10-22T12:32:54.443-04:002009-10-22T12:32:54.443-04:00I echo the props for HAES and Shapely Prose. In f...I echo the props for HAES and Shapely Prose. In fact, Shapely Prose has been a life-saver for me in really thinking, treating ALL women (and men) better - the fat ones, the very skinny ones - and loving my body.kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08183686721305419157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-51848256670778994722009-10-21T12:21:29.286-04:002009-10-21T12:21:29.286-04:00I can identify with everything you have been sayin...I can identify with everything you have been saying, but particularly with your statement that 'health actually comes in many different sizes.'<br /><br />I am short and wide, so my BMI puts me in "Morbidly Obese" despite the fact that my body fat percentage is normal. I am training for a marathon and two days ago completed over 13 miles running without stopping. For me, the scale number and the BMI number have no correlation with whether or not I'm healthy. I'm fit... not skinny, fit. It's a different perspective and one I have to embrace.Brrrandihttp://craftclothier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-43223919639367074642009-10-19T16:15:35.825-04:002009-10-19T16:15:35.825-04:00It's funny (not that her story is funny, it is...It's funny (not that her story is funny, it isn't), in the left picture she's about the size I am (my healthy weight if I eat what my body orders me to eat), so to me that's a very normal/natural size, and yet in my eyes too she looks so much better in the picture on the right hand side. Conclusion: She's the most gorgeous when she's her own size.<br />I guess, simply, we all look the best when we let our systems decide our own healthy size (having said that, I don't believe you become obese if you eat what your body needs, I believe you become obese if you are ill or if you have an unhealthy lifestyle, for whatever reason).<br />Some are meant to be skinny, others "normal" and others even a bit chubby, and they can all be truly beautiful. <br />I really wish that more women would love and accept themselves the way they are. Most of us will never be models anyway...thin or not...Karinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06491845092977999733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-15267396298130980652009-10-18T06:19:40.661-04:002009-10-18T06:19:40.661-04:00Fat is not unhealthy, obesity is. Sometimes.
Cry...Fat is not unhealthy, obesity is. Sometimes. <br /><br />Crystal Renn is beautiful, and, from the picture that you post here, you seem to be beautiful, too. The blue "zipped" dress wouldn't be really interesting on a "size -4" model, clearly (and some other design would be more suited for very thin women, that's the point of fashion, isn't it ? If everyone has the same body, where is the challenge ? )<br /><br />The key is to find clothes that flatter the body, no to torture the body to flatter the clothes (hey, however fabulous, they're fabric, we're human : we win, all the time !)Rose from Thulehttp://rosemiracles.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-68851472199121535782009-10-15T15:47:07.604-04:002009-10-15T15:47:07.604-04:00This discussion interests me very much, and I feel...This discussion interests me very much, and I feel the need to respond to Sandra and Karin's comments.<br /><br />While I agree with Sandra that there are few people who are literally saying to young girls, "You must look like this," I do not believe that the pressure is entirely internal. Sandra says:<br /><br /><i>"Don't you think it's more likely our own insecurities telling us we're not good enough, as opposed to any actual outside pressure?"</i><br /><br />Setting aside all of the magazine and television makeovers, and the movies where the unpopular girl’s life is turned around after a makeover, what is important in this discussion is what they are striving to become. What standard are they worried about not meeting? The question is, what is "good enough"? Where does the definition of "good enough" come from? I believe it comes from looking at who the movie, television, and fashion industries present to the culture as the "beautiful people".<br /><br />Karin says that the people we strive to be like are those who are role models, and I agree. I think the problem lies in who is constantly put before us as role models, and who is selecting those role models. The celebrities whose lives the public is constantly scrutinizing are, by a large margin, the actors and models. The power to select these actors and models -- these celebrities, these role models -- lies entirely in the hands of casting agents, producers, etc. These people are able to choose the direction that the limelight will fall, and they continue to choose to prioritize women who are unhealthily thin. This is where my disagreement with Karin comes in. If the people cast as role models were of a healthy weight, I don’t think it would be more of the same, I think it would be better. <br /><br />I think that it is important for all of our mental health that we realize that this vision of beauty is a constructed thing, and that we should strive for a healthy beauty rather than whatever the current fad may be.Gaidighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11137796009019992269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-6156988728379033162009-10-15T10:32:58.511-04:002009-10-15T10:32:58.511-04:00Karin: Well said.
-SandraKarin: Well said.<br />-SandraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-73779541585127150992009-10-15T06:49:48.634-04:002009-10-15T06:49:48.634-04:00I have been thinking about this subject for a litt...I have been thinking about this subject for a little while and I wonder: Is it really the fashion industry that makes women feel bad about themselves? yes, I know, these days many models look unhealthy skinny. But on the other hand: I think always there have been people who were seen as rolmodels, and people who wanted to try and look like them, even when this meant they were deviating from their natural body/face shape/look. The problem is, I think, first of all is that all these pictures of 'rolmodels' are so overal available. We get them pushed in our faces, so to say. But much more than that I think the problem is that the western culture is so focused on superficial appearance as a way of measuring ones value. And then especially an appearance that's thirteen in a dozen. Ofcourse, it would be great if designers chose to design for women all kinds of sizes. But would it really change anything? As long as youngsters learn that they have to look exactly like some rolemodel to be accepted, I think it won't change a thing. It would only replace one problem with a new one, because rolmodels will always exist and there will always be people who want to look the same, but just don't have that figure/shape/size.<br /><br />Having said that (as if this comment isn't long enough already): I agree that BMI doesn't say that much. It is important to be healthy, and that number doesn't say everything. I do have to say though that when I read that someone is morbidly obese in the bmi scale I hardly can imagine that that can be healthy in any way. It is good to accept that we don't all have a size 0 and that a bit more weight and curves can be beautiful, but being really fat still isn't healthy. It just isn't.Karin van Damhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265648838034821590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-68192763275941158102009-10-15T02:56:44.229-04:002009-10-15T02:56:44.229-04:00I think there is a thin line between fat acceptanc...I think there is a thin line between fat acceptance and maintaining a healthy weight. I struggle with my weight. I'm small and should be quite thin but have rolls of fat around my abdoment. This is plainly unhealthy and needs to be dealt with. Kristel on the other hand is just plain delicious - no rolls just a gorgeous womanly body. I hate the Terry Hartcher skeleton look that US TV promulgates.Gailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00622769905155059570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-7469896014650847632009-10-15T01:35:58.915-04:002009-10-15T01:35:58.915-04:00It's not necessarily about the TALK of what is...It's not necessarily about the TALK of what is a healthy weight. It's the fact that the actual visual image that we are presented with clashes so much with the reality of that weight. For instance, though we may think that a 5'5" woman at 120 lbs is healthy (absolutely not overweight until about 140), the image of that woman comes as a surprisingly "fat" one. We may think that we are past it, but the way our eyes connect to these stereotypes is just as important as the way logic does. Many people would view that model as being quite slim according to the numbers, but when it comes to the IMAGES, that is where we lack in our visual/verbal connections. <br /><br />And I believe that is where we should begin the unlearning.Jesus Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03759964011091604852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-72985428999811538172009-10-15T01:21:21.884-04:002009-10-15T01:21:21.884-04:00After reading your post and pondering all day abou...After reading your post and pondering all day about it, I came to the same conclusion as Just_Fee--many models today look like boys, not women. Or if they are women, they are seriously estrogen deficient. Thanks for bringing this book to our attention. I want to read it! This is a cultural issue to some extent, but not just in the U.S. I have a Brazilian friend who says it is just as bad, if not worse in Brazil. I think that the fashion industry doesn't care how much they influence women and girls' self-image. It is deplorable that there aren't more ladies like Ms. Renn on the catwalk. If only there were women of all sizes and shapes, but I suppose as long as the fashion industry is the way it is, that is a pipe dream. <br /><br />Just my humble opinion, but you, dearie, have an enviable figure. May I suggest to you and to others a book that revolutionized my eating habits and was instrumental in my gaining some health? "The Diet Cure" by Julia Ross. Go to www.thedietcure.com. I cannot say enough good things about this woman's practice. My nurse practitioner requires her patients to read it and a very dear friend is being successfully treated for her serious eating disorder by Ms. Ross.<br /><br />The South Beach Diet worked to reduce my husband's triglyceride levels to a normal range (they were off the charts), but it was hard for us to maintain it long term. The principles in it are very good though and it did make me a more creative cook.<br /><br />My best wishes to you for your health, gorgeous.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984385864865301366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-44288500496431781632009-10-14T23:13:59.300-04:002009-10-14T23:13:59.300-04:00Thank you for a great post. As a mum who has and i...Thank you for a great post. As a mum who has and is still struggling with weight and body acceptance issues, I now worry more for my daughter- as well as my sons- and can only hope that they can grow up with a realistic and healthy attitude towards their own bodies.Tashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216773844356794636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-90485038769365413152009-10-14T22:57:10.232-04:002009-10-14T22:57:10.232-04:00Just today I read this article about Ralph Lauren ...Just today I read this article about Ralph Lauren firing Filippa Hamilton for being too fat (and Ralph Lauren photoshopping her image! Here's a link to the many articles out there: <br />http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/fashion/2009/10/14/2009-10-14_model_fired_for_being_too_fat.html<br /><br />It's ridiculous - no wonder our body image is so screwed up in the US! I'm a victim to some extent myself as I love to look fashionable and it is difficult with an average size 8-12. I'm always on some "diet." <br /><br />I love those new Dove commercials - there are some videos on you tube - this one I especially like the evolution one - every young girl should see it. <br />I also attach a link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYfwIAWWH6M.Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13197442485237029218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-5114692922279919882009-10-14T20:40:05.187-04:002009-10-14T20:40:05.187-04:00Emory is right - plus-sized models are usually a s...Emory is right - plus-sized models are usually a size 12, maybe a 14. Of course, when I think of plus sizes, I'm thinking of the 20/22/24-ish range.<br /><br />So I'm wondering what that makes me (a size 10 or 12) - am I a fat "normal" gal, or a skinny "plus-size" woman? :-)<br /><br />(Not that I give two you-know-whats about it, mind you.)Christinehttp://www.knitsewwhat.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-153173587136325942009-10-14T20:15:52.271-04:002009-10-14T20:15:52.271-04:00Yes, health instead of weight, curves are beautifu...Yes, health instead of weight, curves are beautiful, blah, blah, blah, everyone here is right. But here's the thing. We keep saying that there's this super skinny image that is pushed at women as desirable, but... is there? The ONLY time I see/hear about that scrawny look is when people are saying how awful it is, and isn't it terrible that women are being told to look like that. But..who's doing the telling? Yes, models are human clothes hangers. So? Nothing to do with me. Don't you think it's more likely our own insecurities telling us we're not good enough, as opposed to any actual outside pressure? Don't you think those girls have those thoughts too? Does that make sense?<br />-SandraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-43761128157289649972009-10-14T19:55:45.091-04:002009-10-14T19:55:45.091-04:00Gertie, I just wanted to weigh in (ha, no) by sayi...Gertie, I just wanted to weigh in (ha, no) by saying I don't think you could look any better at any other weight than you do right now: slender but shapely! My own body-image issues are revolting at the idea of anyone wanting to give that up, as much as I totally understand how hard it is for any of us to be happy with what we have.Hillarynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-26991616333968659422009-10-14T17:17:32.154-04:002009-10-14T17:17:32.154-04:00I actually gave up sewing for a whole year because...I actually gave up sewing for a whole year because of weight. My thinking was why spend hours sewing an outfit if I'm just going to (hopefully) lose weight or (god-forbid) gain weight and the darn thing won't fit anymore anyway. After a year, my weight went unchanged and I realized how foolish I was for stifling my creativity and talent for a whole year. I'm so glad glad I found your site, Sew Retro, and other sites where real women model their work!! I can't tell you the number of times I've thought, "Holy cow! She's got my body type - and man~! does she look hot!" It's been such great motivation - both to keep on sewing and to love my curves.Twill Jillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-45057274323642163872009-10-14T14:21:08.301-04:002009-10-14T14:21:08.301-04:00The book does sound like a great read, I think Cry...The book does sound like a great read, I think Crystal looks quiet perfect and praise Jean-Paul Gaultier for accepting and dressing such a womanly figure. He has shown that a true designer can make any shape of woman look amazing and I wish more would stand up and use curvy women. <br />Also has it ever been brought up before that most high fashion designers are male and some are gay, therefore their preferred body type is male, therefore the models chosen reflect this?<br />Just a thought...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-14480369389064019602009-10-14T13:04:27.252-04:002009-10-14T13:04:27.252-04:00Well, even though Crystal Renn is a plus-sized mod...Well, even though Crystal Renn is a plus-sized model, that doesn't mean she's actually plus-sized. Just like 'regular sized' models are way thinner than 'regular' women, so are plus-size models much thinner than plus-sized women. But Crystal Renn definitely looks much much more beautiful in her new size. Her face (and of course her body, too) is just so gorgeous when it's not so bony!<br /><br />I do think it's important to remember that there are real women who are naturally really skinny, and they're beautiful, too. Healthy is beautiful, whatever size that is for you. If you're a certain size - large or small - because you don't treat your body (and mind) right, that's not very attractive.Emoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680450435990927972noreply@blogger.com