tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post6522265300563952519..comments2024-03-14T16:03:32.434-04:00Comments on Gertie's New Blog for Better Sewing: A 40s Precursor to the Walk-Away Dress?Gertiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04314542159287533507noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-87817245848981239272011-05-22T21:33:02.020-04:002011-05-22T21:33:02.020-04:00oh my God! My mom had that red wrap around dress ...oh my God! My mom had that red wrap around dress Jiffy pattern. Wish I could remember the fabric she made it in.kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07586636418231373163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-6211503532743530202010-07-08T18:30:39.959-04:002010-07-08T18:30:39.959-04:00Hi Gertie, I found an easy wrap blouse variation i...Hi Gertie, I found an easy wrap blouse variation in a 1950s german magazine recently. Maybe it´s of interest for you. <br />You can find pictures in my blog<br />http://www.zuzsastyle.com/?p=1479<br /><br />Anyway, I read your article with lots of fun! ZuzsaZuzsahttp://www.zuzsastyle.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-67636972574004960352010-01-05T17:35:12.787-05:002010-01-05T17:35:12.787-05:00Ooh how interesting - love pattern history! I'...Ooh how interesting - love pattern history! I'm a big fan of wrap dresses in general, so I like them all! :)Charlottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14247551155021625654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-55477124383743537902010-01-03T02:12:33.515-05:002010-01-03T02:12:33.515-05:00I'm trying to collect as many of these as I ca...I'm trying to collect as many of these as I can lay my hands on. Here's one from Advance, perhaps early 50s?<br /><br />http://www.flickr.com/photos/nnaloh/4221577876/Nalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558786245154313370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-48318545197232998112009-12-23T15:09:26.167-05:002009-12-23T15:09:26.167-05:00There are lots more variations on that dress. I h...There are lots more variations on that dress. I have:<br /> - Simplicity 3967 (1952, sweetheart neckline, pointed midriff panel, bust gathers)<br /><br /> - Butterick 3221 (1970's "Wrap and Go" dress<br /><br />I also have the Jiffy "Mod" one pictured above (Simplicity 8125, 1968/1969). It's the only one I have actually made and it was a practially unwearable disaster due to creeping and shifting. It was so bad I haven't been motivated to try the others in my stash. Although I wonder if the bodice details on S3967 would solve the creeping problems...Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10408008074242523257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-81331497246054524422009-12-23T12:28:26.779-05:002009-12-23T12:28:26.779-05:00I think I may have seen some 1930's or even 20...I think I may have seen some 1930's or even 20's "house dresses" that are a similar wrap-around design, but now I have to go look through my stuff to make sure I didn't just dream that.<br /><br />I love the wrap-around style, and have a great 1960's pattern that I use for summer dresses; very easy to make, easy to wear!Erika Mulvennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02754785341905724718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-82820564088106685942009-12-21T14:52:57.513-05:002009-12-21T14:52:57.513-05:00Gertie, cool post, I have some of those, I have al...Gertie, cool post, I have some of those, I have always been interested in walkaways and other versions, those were popular among my grandmother and her generation. I also have this one:http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=17109650, if you can pull it up. Walkaways and other wraps were popular housedresses. In Goodfellas, Henry's mom even has a Swirl style dress on, similar to my favorite Simplicity from 1952. The 1945 version you posted is my favorite. Looks like a modified apron and could be really easy to draft, with a muslin.Myrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16163175961766563965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-79371037738751616752009-12-19T09:49:08.709-05:002009-12-19T09:49:08.709-05:00Someone mentioned a similar concept in pants - he...Someone mentioned a similar concept in pants - here's a pic: http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=20583800ZipZapKaphttp://www.etsy.com/shop/ZipZapKapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-53604776729760618252009-12-18T13:13:45.961-05:002009-12-18T13:13:45.961-05:00Just found your blog and am very excited about the...Just found your blog and am very excited about the vintage sewing! I like the 6015 pattern best, with the full skirt, but love the silhouette in general.Jesslynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01419526534244244546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-61503075747973401892009-12-18T12:57:40.455-05:002009-12-18T12:57:40.455-05:00I like the 1945 and the B6836 versions of the walk...I like the 1945 and the B6836 versions of the walk away dress.Cennettahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09109335050044632749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-59464158555102400972009-12-18T10:16:45.315-05:002009-12-18T10:16:45.315-05:00Great historical review of a pattern and its offsp...Great historical review of a pattern and its offspring through the decades!<br />The only comment I ever read about the WAD that stuck in my brain is that the lack of side seams makes the fronts (?) ride up and one ends up tugging on the skirt for modesty's sake. Hmmmm. Sounds like the sides need some buttons to hold them together, at least.Digshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09146986269769790807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-51358726603409606912009-12-17T19:53:58.251-05:002009-12-17T19:53:58.251-05:00The Butterick 4699 pattern is one (or very like th...The Butterick 4699 pattern is one (or very like the one) that my mother made for me and my sister in late 60's or early 70's. We called it "the 3-holed dress." I think there were a couple variations (wine red corduroy with gold rick-rack is working its way thru the jungle of memory).Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09374116187229493592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-36715922183171250162009-12-17T15:46:04.131-05:002009-12-17T15:46:04.131-05:00Oh Gertie, I'd love to know more about the sec...Oh Gertie, I'd love to know more about the second-to-last pattern, the Jiffy one. It looks like a great maternity dress.PJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08495764799585685598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-89633859365539869132009-12-17T13:16:59.714-05:002009-12-17T13:16:59.714-05:00I like the 40s one, and I own a few early 40s wrap...I like the 40s one, and I own a few early 40s wrap dress patterns that I have made up and they don't look like hospital gowns I promise! they are some of my favorite summer frocks.<br /><br />Also, I have a swirl (brand) dress that is equally amazing. I adore wrap dresses!Twila Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01944596069735350856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-71042485009795311112009-12-17T13:14:15.979-05:002009-12-17T13:14:15.979-05:00Very interesting. Could I have the pattern number ...Very interesting. Could I have the pattern number for the Jiffy one? I'm pretty sure I saw this SOMEWHERE but can't recall.<br /><br /><br />Here's one with a collar :<br /><br />http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=36466676&ref=cat1_gallery_6 (with collar)Lakaribanehttp://fashionmate.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-27509012758400182552009-12-17T12:51:48.995-05:002009-12-17T12:51:48.995-05:00I should also mention that I think the extra fabri...I should also mention that I think the extra fabric required to wrap the skirt modestly is probably the reason that it wasn't popular in the 40's, espoecially in places like Britain that continues rationing.Gaidighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11137796009019992269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-90014735735795840742009-12-17T12:47:04.004-05:002009-12-17T12:47:04.004-05:00I'm with previous commentors who like the 40&#...I'm with previous commentors who like the 40's and Jiffy versions better than the "walkaway" (which appears suitable only for very slim figures). As for that last Butterick one --- OMG, I'm quite sure I remember seeing that in pattern catalogs when I was learning to sew in HomeEc class in grade school. I was intrigued by the simple-clever design, although it looks like the kind of garment that would be horribly unflattering on absolutely everyone.Venus de Hilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00424101811517659566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-5223575955607564972009-12-17T12:47:00.694-05:002009-12-17T12:47:00.694-05:00I definitely prefer the '40s version to the wa...I definitely prefer the '40s version to the walkaway dress. It has much better sleeves, and I like the fact that the skirt has more of a sarong feel than a "hospital gown" feel. It is clearly designed to use drapy fabrics, which I think is much more appropriate for a wrap dress. I find it intersting that it uses considerably less fabric than the walkaway dress, as well -- there's only one layer to that skirt!<br /><br />I certainly don't think that all of the patterns for wrap pants and skirts all evolved from the walk-away dress, like gwensews thinks. This 1945 pattern is a great example. Also, I have a pair of traditional Indian wrap pants that I am certain can't be traced back to the walk-away dress. I think wrap skirts, and possibly even Butterick 4699, above have their origins in the traditional sarong, ad I think that wrapping around is really a totally different construction concept than wrapping over (or under, for pants) your body.Gaidighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11137796009019992269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-73202114753615857912009-12-17T12:02:37.141-05:002009-12-17T12:02:37.141-05:00I adore the silhouette of the 40s version--how coo...I <i>adore</i> the silhouette of the 40s version--how cool! (Which translates into: must figure out about making one someday... lol) I've seen variations on the idea of a wrap garment in patterns prior to hugely popular 50s version (which frankly--not to offend anyone--just leaves me lukewarm. I really don't care too much for it.). I know the patterns I have seen for similar styles have been mail orders/newspaper patterns; none of the major pattern companies were exploiting this idea in the 40s. Which is odd, considering how much of an emphasis on <i>practicality</i> there was at that point in fashion.<br /><br />I like the one you posted for several reasons; the fact that it's from the 40s is a big draw for me. But I love the silhouette too--and that it's begging to be made in a pretty rayon or light silk. Plus, what girl could resist the marketing line: "drapes to the figure like a dream"?<br /><br />Totally different garment, but I thought you might find this interesting. Here's a mid 40s pattern for a blouse that operates on a similar principle: <br /><br />http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b145/iconisms/simplicity_1867.jpg<br /><br />♥ Casey<br />blog | elegantmusings.comCasey Maurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09060290127464174281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-73933231257976076972009-12-17T11:44:42.568-05:002009-12-17T11:44:42.568-05:00There is also an Advance sewing pattern that is ve...There is also an Advance sewing pattern that is very similar to the walk-away dress and came out simultaneously (6144, 1952) so I've always assumed that the concept was floating around before 1952 and Butterick....I was thinking that it might have been something from RTW of the era, or something that evolved out of those apron/housedress garments that often wrap. This 40s one is the first "dressy" one I've seen, definitely!<br /><br />One note on the Walk-away -- the original pattern is not a full circle, it's a half-circle. No idea why they changed it in the most recent reissue! (the late 90s reissue is also a half-circle). I would definitely not make it as a circle skirt. Then again, I've had the pattern for years and still haven't made it so...what do I know?sarahhttp://www.colorkitten.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-40527327900388773312009-12-17T10:59:19.431-05:002009-12-17T10:59:19.431-05:00Ooh, thanks for that link, Amanda!
Rueby, good po...Ooh, thanks for that link, Amanda!<br /><br />Rueby, good point about the ancient Greeks. But I meant sewing pattern-wise and who first marketed the idea to the home sewing market. :) But that would be pretty cool if someone found an ancient Greek sewing pattern!Gertiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04314542159287533507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-84593333790370331772009-12-17T10:54:08.180-05:002009-12-17T10:54:08.180-05:00The one-hour-dress which Amanda mentions above is ...The one-hour-dress which Amanda mentions above is not a wrap around though it is a relatively patternless make. I made one for Halloween and it took me A LOT longer than 1 hour.<br /><br />As for who came up with the wrap around style of dress...well now...shouldn't we be giving Ancient Greece that title...?Ceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16516722290571447273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-23203113975485103312009-12-17T10:47:45.706-05:002009-12-17T10:47:45.706-05:00I have an entire book of vintage flapper dresses t...I have an entire book of vintage flapper dresses that are all made in the same manner. Check it out on amazon...<br />http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1934268666/ref=oss_T15_product. <br /><br />Super simple to make although I must admit I haven't actually made one yet :)Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03916027378269131860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-75922167983621323972009-12-17T10:06:51.671-05:002009-12-17T10:06:51.671-05:00.
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