tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post2858727848744184068..comments2024-03-14T16:03:32.434-04:00Comments on Gertie's New Blog for Better Sewing: Glee and Sewing (and Fat, Fashion, and Flamboyance)Gertiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04314542159287533507noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-40106380432465287882011-05-19T02:15:40.697-04:002011-05-19T02:15:40.697-04:00now that you mentioned Blaine/Darren Criss... does...now that you mentioned Blaine/Darren Criss... does anyone else think that he wouldnt look so small if they had made his blazer a bit shorter?Jazznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-85942275423834596252011-05-18T12:03:35.170-04:002011-05-18T12:03:35.170-04:00The Lauren scene was terrible. She's supposed ...The Lauren scene was terrible. She's supposed to be so badass, so why is she accepting "wear navy, it's slimming"? I would expect her to punch Kurt in the face for a comment like that. (I do think it's believeable that a teen girl would say "you'll look poor" if you make your own dress. Many teens are very concerned with labels.) As for Kurt: he's become the most inconsistently written character on that show. Remember that episode where his boyfriend tells his dad to talk to him about sex because he's apparently ignorant about it? That was weird because Kurt has always been the most sophisticated and worldy character of all the kids. Plus he's highly theatrical...yet he found it impossible to act sexy? The whole thing was ridiculous and inconsistent. That Fleetwood Mac episode, however....I love me some Rumours.Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04942455468832787000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-56561115641033206212011-05-17T13:24:17.874-04:002011-05-17T13:24:17.874-04:00Maybe Lauren didn't want to look like a desser...Maybe Lauren didn't want to look like a dessert. Although, it would have been awesome if she had worn the big bird dress or made own (so long as it didn't resemble the pretty in pink horror).Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03037636603903648365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-49480999964818949892011-05-17T13:03:13.929-04:002011-05-17T13:03:13.929-04:00Okay, I know I've hit the effin trifecta (Fema...Okay, I know I've hit the effin trifecta (Female, Fat, over-Forty), but in my day, Ducky loved Molly for making her own dress. He would never have dreamed of telling her to wear navy (not that there's anything wrong with that) when she wanted to wear pink.<br /><br />There was a lot to be said for pink, WIWAG (when I was a girl) that doesn't seem so important these days. Sometimes, that makes me sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-41379683647867347872011-05-17T10:47:02.498-04:002011-05-17T10:47:02.498-04:00I think the comments to Lauren were normal. When I...I think the comments to Lauren were normal. When I graduated from High School I wanted to wear the vintage Vogue suit I had worked on in my sewing class (more like slaved). I had found a vintage pattern did all the sizing, cutting, sewing, tailoring and my mother and grandmother would not hear of me wearing something I made, as it would make me look "poor". (Snobbery of a private all girl school). So I bowed to the powers and wore a god awful sheath monstrosity leaving my beautiful new look suit in my closet. <br />the idea that sewing make one look poor is frustrating and a stigma that all of us who sew strive to overcome.maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752636169476020740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-52458185720729657222011-05-17T09:34:15.738-04:002011-05-17T09:34:15.738-04:00Funny story: I recently bought that EXACT same sty...Funny story: I recently bought that EXACT same style vintage dress that Lauren tried on (only this one was in a light powder blue) at an estate sale for $1! My dress was also in a large, but I re-sized it to fit my much smaller frame. I think it was actually originally made in my size, but someone else had carefully added matching fabric panel inserts to the bodice and straps in order to make it larger.Apothecary Innhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18145954345859168546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-39085238647480285592011-05-16T23:55:44.991-04:002011-05-16T23:55:44.991-04:00I made my youngest sister's senior prom dress-...I made my youngest sister's senior prom dress--ombré sunset yellow at the bottom to pure white at the shoulders, rayon crepe A-line with peek-a-boo back. She loved it, and looked fabulous. And I'm a guy. (And for the record, Molly Ringwald's Pretty in Pink dress was classic, mature, and beautiful. Better than a prom dress deserves to be.)<br /><br />And it used to be that custom made wedding dresses were chic.<br /><br />This episode of Glee is just another example of how they're readily willing to bend reality to make witty dialogue for dramatic situational context. All they're doing is demonstrating how little they know about what they're writing about... Which really makes me doubt the veracity of the series as a whole, making it feel "hollow". Hard to believe in a message when the delivery system is so riddled with holes. <br /><br />It's cute, but in an "empty calories" way. And we all know what they say about that.<br /><br />Perhaps it's time to turn it off and enjoy a good audiobook while you create something fabulous at your sewing machine? That's what I'd do. Maybe you could review some great books you listen to? That would be really cool! : )<br /><br />Keep up the good work! Enjoying all your posts!Relishedartistryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14881073245584539523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-69800895450208671672011-05-16T23:19:22.826-04:002011-05-16T23:19:22.826-04:00I work in theater and I'm always picking apart...I work in theater and I'm always picking apart aspects of Glee. I'm glad someone else thinks about these things too.<br />I didn't pick up on this aspect of Kurt getting to be himself but Lauren hiding in a slimming color. <br />I have often thought it was funny how they seem to "whip" everything up. They get their assignment for the week and by the end of the week they have costumes and sets. I remember the Umbrella/Singing in the Rain number from a different episode and there was a rain curtain and it made my backstage head spin with knowing how much time actually goes into teching a rain curtain scene.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18226974782422398270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-23179342673781168002011-05-16T22:23:38.472-04:002011-05-16T22:23:38.472-04:00I love your post and agree with everything you sai...I love your post and agree with everything you said. One other point irritates me. Why on tv do they always have to show women getting fashion advice from gay men. Are we women too clueless to figure out what works for us and what does not work?Edna Modehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01689311905148546406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-488807777327352842011-05-16T21:48:00.023-04:002011-05-16T21:48:00.023-04:00Girl, I so agree with you. I love Kurt, but someti...Girl, I so agree with you. I love Kurt, but sometimes his scenes are either over-the-top flaming or just self loathing. They could totally make him a more lovable character if they didn't stereotype him SOOOO much. As for Lauren, I was disappointed she didn't make her prom dress. I made mine, and I was proud of it. No one else had what I had, and I didn't look poor at all.<br />-BethanyBethanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03941972765810908740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-71491282680139442372011-05-16T21:39:54.227-04:002011-05-16T21:39:54.227-04:00Totally enjoyed the posting and the comments!Totally enjoyed the posting and the comments!Shawntahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931837706372994248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-58241947153318939772011-05-16T21:26:49.467-04:002011-05-16T21:26:49.467-04:00having just finished altering a kilt for my hubby,...having just finished altering a kilt for my hubby, I can say that it's not something one "just whips up" I spent a week working on it & I didn't even have to do the pleating! The Prince Charlie jacket would be a whole other story! <br /><br />As for Lauren, seriously? she's got such personality and I can't even recall what her character ended up wearing! so tragic!<br /><br />I was however, amused by Rachel & Mercedes buying dresses at the Goodwill and looking so awesome- that was totally my junior homecoming! spent 10 bucks on my dress and no one knew I hadn't spent 200.Peggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08411846976683327253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-92150283924518172522011-05-16T20:04:31.976-04:002011-05-16T20:04:31.976-04:00I'm so glad you decided to blog about these sc...I'm so glad you decided to blog about these scenes because I was struck by the messages they sent, but for slightly different reasons. I'm always fascinated how different people can perceive the same thing in different ways. I think the point of the scene with Lauren was to address what many teens feel, which is that none of the dresses look on them like they do on the models in Teen Vogue, etc. The fashion "diagnosis" offered by Kurt was that the problem was not Lauren but, rather, the dress, which would not look good on anyone larger than a size 2. He also tried to steer her in a more sophisticated direction, which I thought was interesting because the "lemon meringue" dress was not particularly sophisticated. Further, Lauren did not like the way she looked in the yellow dress and wanted another option. <br /><br />In contrast, Kurt LOVED his freshly sewn ensemble (I KNOW, LIKE, WHO CAN SEW THAT EVER, LET ALONE A TEENAGER IN HIS SPARE TIME???), and was disappointed that everyone did not share his enthusiasm, not necessarily for the outfit, but for the appropriateness or suitability to the occasion. I think it is a hard lesson for anyone to learn that there is a time and place for everything. It is hard for a kid like Kurt to balance being who he is without pushing the envelope so far as to risk exposing himself to unnecessary vulnerability. Blaine for a date? I loved that there was never a question as to whether that was okay, and the school did not try to stop him. But the over-the-top outfit? Perhaps Lima, OH is not quite ready for that. I thought it was an important thing for him to consider, and I loved that he ultimately decided to wear the outfit anyway. The final scene in the episode said it all. Awesome.bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05560968353314411125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-1846647196088659542011-05-16T18:30:39.139-04:002011-05-16T18:30:39.139-04:00You bring up an excellent point about the inconsis...You bring up an excellent point about the inconsistent messages for Lauren and Kurt. It seems that this show is all about celebrating the gay and all about booing the fat. It seems if they are going to preach a message of acceptance it should apply to all differences that other might have.Gorditahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507094618720828900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-67181639333832257122011-05-16T17:48:05.496-04:002011-05-16T17:48:05.496-04:00Thanks for summarizing the scenes you linked! Thos...Thanks for summarizing the scenes you linked! Those of us outside the US can't watch Hulu clips, and I really appreciate you taking the time to provide the context and summary needed to follow the rest of the post.Natashanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-58295531818473199902011-05-16T17:47:02.950-04:002011-05-16T17:47:02.950-04:00Awesome post. Really really awesome.Awesome post. Really really awesome.deborah_brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04092622662832089288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-5308019256606773452011-05-16T16:39:12.754-04:002011-05-16T16:39:12.754-04:00Hold up, aren't teenagers more savvy than this...Hold up, aren't teenagers more savvy than this? Granted, the Prom episode hasn't aired on free TV in the UK yet, so I can't comment on what has piqued so much interest on this forum, but I can't believe that teenagers watching this actually believe it all. Isn't just a bit of fluff? I find it funny that commenters are lamenting the role of Lauren and Kurt, but there is no mention (in what I've read) of how stupid Britney is portrayed, or how Sue misuses the adoration of one of the students (forgive me, I don't know her name)...I just take the whole show with a pinch of salt and laugh at the ridiculousness of it at times.Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-39716545124759483232011-05-16T13:52:42.102-04:002011-05-16T13:52:42.102-04:00A real live gay sidekick would have whipped up a l...A real live gay sidekick would have whipped up a lemon meringue dress for his gf, and both of them would have danced them all under the table. Sheesh. I guess as a fat lesbian I should be happy that some small part of me is getting more acceptable :-)..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-31312225385294637092011-05-16T13:14:03.771-04:002011-05-16T13:14:03.771-04:00I agree with everything Jen said
Also, I like you...I agree with everything Jen said<br /><br />Also, I like your take on it. You make very good points. <br /><br />I've apparently come to offer nothing and agree on everything :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-30983155260693522082011-05-16T13:11:59.476-04:002011-05-16T13:11:59.476-04:00Yet another reason for me to never tune in. Penis ...Yet another reason for me to never tune in. Penis can do no wrong! He can conquer all! And overnight! But vagina...BAD! No custom dress for you! Shame, SHAME! Please. I can't stand scripted network shows. I watch adult swim because if something stupid happens, it's a cartoon. Not an scripted drama trying to pretend it's plausible.<br /><br />And size 16 in Marilyn's time was more like a 8 or a 6. Our sizes have grown as a country because everyone gained so much weight.Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06793295526771577222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-64956572785558464772011-05-16T13:05:52.642-04:002011-05-16T13:05:52.642-04:00On a completly different note. I hate Hulu, which ...On a completly different note. I hate Hulu, which isn't working outside the US. And of course they don't say so openly on their homepage (so no one who links to it knows). Just load an show and then be disapointed. (I'm just a bit bitter since I've tried to legally stream -and pay for - a lot of shows and movies without results. So no Glee for me).<br /><br />Glee itself is somewhat a very American (stereotype) show and - even if whimsical and uptight - much more on the positive side of America from the view of us outsiders (the rest 6 and a half billion in the world).Emeliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17773976185794828240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-58733712226248948332011-05-16T12:47:43.119-04:002011-05-16T12:47:43.119-04:00I want to know what's so out there about weari...I want to know what's so out there about wearing a kilt and jacket to a formal occassion? So, yes he might not be scottish but wouldn't most of the people just assume he was? I've seen loads of kilts at weddings so there really shouldn't have been such a big deal wearing one to a formal prom.lsaspaceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17058968076601943527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-77085602692382724942011-05-16T12:45:15.348-04:002011-05-16T12:45:15.348-04:00the dress issue bothered me too. Especially when R...the dress issue bothered me too. Especially when Rachel and Mercedes bought theirs at a thrift store (and have awesome fitted dresses? um, yeah RIGHT), yet a sewn dress would look poor? <br /><br />and as a complete aside and full-on snark... wouldn't this have been an awesome opportunity to give a shoutout to donatemydress.org or projectprincess.org or to other charities that give girls who don't have much a lovely dress and accessories (some also throw in hair and makeup sessions too)?<br /><br />Personally I figured Kurt had been working on his prom outfit for months, but then that's me ;) (he rocked that kilt!)<br /><br />It was... just such a letdown. I dunno.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-29950630798756198032011-05-16T12:40:28.821-04:002011-05-16T12:40:28.821-04:00Just wanted to note two things:
First, Lauren her...Just wanted to note two things:<br /><br />First, Lauren herself was the one who didn't like the yellow dress. The other characters did needlessly suggest slimming colors but it was in response to her initial dislike of the look. <br /><br />Second, I am amazed in reading these comments at how frequently the word "hate" is used in regard to this scene, this program, etc. I understand that people do get emotional about social issues, but let's get some perspective. It's just a television show with all the attendant absurdities, not a set of commandments by which we must live our lives. <br /><br />And I have to agree with one of the other commenters - I waited the whole show to see an Emma Pillsbury look and she never showed up at the prom!Katrina Blanchallehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03300264690284771712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3259455441759015869.post-38138664973853294282011-05-16T12:02:05.931-04:002011-05-16T12:02:05.931-04:00In response to the idea that having a home-sewn pr...In response to the idea that having a home-sewn prom dress is a bad idea - I have to say that when I was in HS I made the dresses I wore to 2 homecomings, 1 Valentine's dance, and Senior prom (i went with something vintage for Junior prom). I loved all my dresses and still do. For Glee to promote the idea that sewing one's own dress would make her look poor is just stupidity. You'd think they'd do more to celebrate creativity and make it seem as though sewing one's own clothing is normal, rather than making it a stereotypical "weird" thing by having only one person do it. Yes, those who sew their own clothes in school don't usually follow the crowd, but I think they missed an opportunity to go somewhere else by having only Kurt be the one who made his prom attire.<br /><br />I made my wedding dress, as well and 4 of my 5 bridesmaids' dresses, plus the outfit my aunt wore to do the readings. I couldn't have bought a dress as wonderful as mine for the $300 I spent to make it and my veil. My husband's outfit cost more in the neighborhood of $800! So much for women's clothing costing so much more than men's. That was 14 years ago. <br /><br />In 2003 I made a beautiful red silk gown from a Tom and Linda Platt Vogue pattern to wear to a military ball. Everyone wanted to know where I got it and was shocked to know I'd made it.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11447949592701882774noreply@blogger.com